Internet Resources – Limit 3
Jan 9th, 2009 by Cathy Nelson
Research time is getting busy and frenzy-paced. I have all three grades (and in one grade two different departments) working on various research projects. Time and time again I see guidelines that spell out what kinds of resources can be used, and I can always count on the obligatory “print” resource to be in the mix. I myself cringe when kids have found the three websites they plan to use, ending any hope that they might use the databases the district and state library provide. I say why not look here, and the student says no can do, I already have three online resources. And who can blame the kids. I myself when faced with a information quest will first turn to Google. Guilty! Busted! So a lot of my instruction one on one, in small groups, or in full classes has been about evaluating sites, and making sure they are indeed authoritative, relevant, up to date, and not questionable. When I talked about triangulating data, I hoped kids would use the databases to verify information. But I did not push it. Afterall, many times the kids had a limit. And once they had their number of sources, they were done. No convincing kids to look elsewhere.
Let’s Google it.
In conversations, I discovered that Google makes my kids feel an extreme freedom in searching. I have taken time to show Google Scholar, but there is something so inviting about the main Google screen, so alluring, kids just cannot resist. And then when they first find a gazillion hits to their query, it’s almost like a moment to celebrate (despite what I’ve shared about how search engines work, and that what is on the first page is not always the best or most accurate, and a refined search with fewer hits may be better.) Kids just LOVE that simple white screen. They can’t lay off it.
Is a database a website?
Then this past week I saw where another teacher-librarian asked the question that I quite honestly had never pushed out there: Is a subscription database to be considered an online resource? I waited to see what others would say, and it wasn’t long before there was a rock solid answer that I forwarded out to my teachers for consideration:
In my opinion, electronic databases should NOT count as Internet resources. Yes, you access them through the Internet (the delivery method), but someone has to pay to access them – hence the name subscription database. In addition, these resources have already been “evaluated” in some form. When teachers refer to the Internet, they are mostly referring to the WWW and/or free web = sites that any john doe can create. Like you said above, electronic databases collect materials that were originally in print – magazines, journals, pamphlets, brochures, reference books, etc. as well as web resources that have been evaluated and approved to be of some authority. My teachers will allow students to use as many references from DISCUS/subscription databases as they can find, but limit the number of free websites/sources. (Heather Loy, Wagener Salley High School, Wagener, SC)
Bravo, Bravo, Bravo!
Now why didn’t I see it that way? (I suspect it is because I too–just like my kids–am a Google freak.) But it did give me a new way to think about the research that takes place in my building. With this new definition, I am hoping to get guidelines adjusted to say websites, databases, and print resources. I am hoping the databases will become a REQUIRED component in the mix, giving my kids a real reason to delve into the little used resources and realize their potential. Maybe they will realize the db are the better and more reliable resource, and stop juggling so much of their time cruising through all those Google search results.
What a difficult admission.
But it feels good to suddenly WANT to show off the databases, and have students come in hot and bothered about the databases just as much as the clamor after Google. So thanks for this conversation in my network.
One more question though.
And Heather poses this one too, but I’ll save this for her blog.
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Hmmm, I can say that the reason I came to my way of thinking was from having “taught” a web class to my Webmasters students a few years ago. We learned all about the origins of the Internet and one of their quiz questions was: “Is the Internet and the WWW the same thing?” It’s all about terminology and a person’s definition. I’ve explored it a little more over on my blog.
I will caution you that you need to clarify your guidelines to say websites, SUBSCRIPTION databases, and print. After all, Google is a database, too! It just happens to be a search engine database that indexes the free web. Once again, semantics can be important!
Thanks for the great additional suggestion about referring to them as “subscription” databases. I am going to use this term this week!
I have to say … thinking of it this way makes DISCUS a whole lot more appealing. Sorry not a big fan of DISCUS. BUT if it is approached in this manner… it makes me happy.
Maryann for years I have been unhappy with DISCUS, but I don’t complain so much because the SDE tool for evaluating library programs will mark you down if subscription databases are not offered—seems it is “best practice” to offer them. Too bad so much money is invested into a tool that is used little. They are ugly, each interface for the db’s are busy, confusing, and intimidating (even to adults), and yes they may only get used IF a teacher requires them. I have signs in my library that read:
Don’t like this (insert access denied screen) then use these (Discus and Ebsco Logos.)
Oddly enough the signs while cute and mildly funny, still do not encourage kids enough to use the DB. Sigh. Can’t blame them. I’m just as bad–oh what a hypocrite I am. It will happen when projects requiring citations require kids to use them.
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